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Differentiating an M1A Rifle from an M14 Rifle
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6:58 pm
June 10, 2009


M1A Scout

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posts 3

The first thing that you might notice about these two rifles is the striking similarity in appearance. It should be similar because they are essentially the same in almost every feature except that one rifle is used by the army and the other one can be purchased at any reputed gun store.

Like the saying goes, the differences are only skin deep. For beginners, the receivers of the M14 are manufactured using what is known as the drop-forge technique. M1A on the other hand uses an investment cast receiver and may be comprised of a mixture of genuine United States GI military specification parts along with case replica parts, or simply all United States GI parts or even mostly investment cast parts along with smaller military specification parts. The sound created by the two receivers is different and any rifle audiophile can immediately differentiate the two by simply listening to their sound upon discharge.

The selector switch of M1As manufactured post 1990 are different from the ones on the M14. The M14 uses a walnut stock similar to the M21 that is height adjustable. Additionally, the 7.62mm caliber design was also dropped after the 1990 model of the M1A. M1As work only off 7.62x50mm NATO ammunition and not on anything else.

The bayonet lug has been removed from the newer M1A models. This was following the Assaults Weapons Ban of 1994 that prohibited the use of bayonet lugs on civilian weaponry. However, there is a workaround that allows owners to attached a bayonet lug to their M1As since the flash suppressor on the M1As are all identical.

When it comes to disassembly as well, there are minor differences between the two. With the M14, you can simply remove the connector and the operating rod slides out whereas the M1A uses a technique commonly known as “twist and pray” to remove the operating rod.

The M1A is strictly a semi automatic rifle. There is no way that it can be made to operate in a full automatic mode. The M14, on the other hand, is a selective fire military weapon. This translates into it being able to operate in selective automatic fire mode. The military initially had the selector switch to operate the M14 in full auto but eventually had it removed to a functionless knob since most of the soldiers were habitually leaving the selector to auto under all conditions. The M14 was infamous for not being very controllable in the auto mode and hence it was decided to drop the switch after a while. Thus, this is the reason why almost 90% of the M14s out there are forcibly semi auto with no option to switch.

The other big difference between the two weapons is the inflated price tag. The M14 is at least $14,000 dearer than the M1A. The high cost is attributed to the costlier fabrication process and the use of costlier military grade materials while making it. Hence, you need to be cautious and use discretion while handling the M14, especially if it is in the auto mode.


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9:30 pm
November 9, 2009


4mrmissileer

Upstate NY

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posts 9

Ummm…. just to clarify a few things here…..

"Additionally, the 7.62mm caliber design was also dropped after the 1990 model of the M1A. M1As work only off 7.62x50mm NATO ammunition and not on anything else."

That should be 7.62X51mm NATO ammunition, and I apologize for missing the point here…..but… I am missing the point.

The Bayonet Lug…

Springfield actually dropped the bayonet lug prior to the 1994 ban for what other articles I have read describe as a sort of political pre-emption. My M1A is a 1993 pre-ban issue and does not have a bayonet lug, albiet the remainder of the flash supressor and sight assembly is in every other way identical to the M14 version- there is a sort of flat "step" where the lug would normally protrude…possibly remachined?

M14/M1A…..

The M-14's that are semi-automatic only DO have the option to switch with the installation of a "drop-in" selector switch, described in the M14 manual. The "semiautomatic only" models have a "selector switch plug" installed where the selector would go, and it is easily changed out. I had first hand experience with an M-14 in full auto and I agree that it is a useless function, unless maybe if your job is to burn ammo. The conversion from "semi-only" to selective fire was in fact so simple that Springfield Armory had to modify the original design of the M14 receiver and "morph" it into the M1A that we all know and love.

About 10-12 years ago, when Numerich Arms/Gun Parts Corporation still had its walk-in store in West Hurley, NY, I had the opportunity to drool over a TRW manufactured M-14 receiver in their display case, selling for $1595, provided you had a class 3 FFL. It certainly looked to me that all my M1A hardware would fit, except for my stock, which was of newer manufacture and did not have the selector cutout like allot of the recycled furniture.

I was not aware that the M14 and M1A sounded differently, and find that very interesting. That must have something to do with the seer being captured by receiver design in the M1A vice the selector switch/plug in the M-14. In most other full/selective fire weapons vs. their semiautomatic only counterparts, it is usually because the autos fire from an open bolt, and the semis are designed to fire from a closed bolt (Thompsons, Uzi's for example). I do not think that you can describe the military parts as costlier though….. My M1A appears (to me at least) to have much higher manufacturing quality applied to its guts than those of the M-14's I have had apart… the springs and operating rods look better, the fit of the trigger group is much tighter….in fact, the whole thing feels much more "snug" than an M-14…… maybe it is a mileage issue?

12:43 pm
February 9, 2010


The Shootist

Clearfield,Pa.

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posts 126

People make a big deal out of the whole M-1A's don't have a "forged" reciever thing. but there are Springfield recievers out there on their fourth and fifth barrel replacements! Averaging 5000-10,000 rounds per barrel change depending on how anal you are about barrel throats. that is more ammo than most shooters outside of competition will ever even be able to afford to shoot let alone actually shoot out of their rifles. We are talking alomost 100,000 rounds plus out of some of these recievers.

Are their diffreneces between forged and Investment castings, YES, will it ever become a problem for even the avid shooter…NOT LIKELY!!

As i have posted here before there was reciever that took 12 rounds of .308 loaded to the brim with PISTOL powder before a Springfield reciever started to fail in a test conducted for a M-14 book by Lee Emerson.

Remember back in the 1950's when the M-14 was built they would've needed the margin of error that forgings provided,Steel was as pure and free from contnaminants, the origanl M-14's were full auto a whole different type of abuse than our M-1A's will ever recieve.

The current M-1A's are still the 8620 ordnance steel of the original , but investment casting was a new science back in the 1950's and metalurgy like any science progresses, i would not worry about your M-1A's being cast intead of forged, NOBODY in firearms forges anythign but the barrels of their guns anymore. Even the Remington, Ruger, and Winchester Bolt guns are using Investment castings now instead of forgings. And the current Sniper rifles used by the Marines and Army are Remington recievers. and they seem to able to do the job.

Unless you are firing hundreds of rounds every weekend in competitions or matches, there is little likely possibility your guns aprts will give way!! In fact except for a Bad barrel Kb-ing i have yet to even hear of a competitiive shooter who has had a reciever fail and in the KB case the barrel chamber gave way before the reciever did.

War does not always decide who was right, but it's always decided who was left!!!


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